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Post by Autolykos on Feb 4, 2015 21:52:16 GMT
We signed an mdoap abooout a weeeek ago. Also the left coalition and the vg have always had an mdp. We're doing what is right and protecting our allies. Dont b mad because ur bad#ripDaruja So you had an MDP with the Left, and neither side has ever declared it publicly, and, going further, you never decided to tell me this before just rushing in to help your ally, as if we wouldn't have been open to negotiations if you were going to threaten to bring yourselves and the UAL into the conflict as well? You're spouting purely unsupported bullshit here. My 1 LA member will rekt u all. Stop crying over a 3 man alliance tearin up ur shit.
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Post by obongothemighty on Feb 4, 2015 21:55:08 GMT
So you had an MDP with the Left, and neither side has ever declared it publicly, and, going further, you never decided to tell me this before just rushing in to help your ally, as if we wouldn't have been open to negotiations if you were going to threaten to bring yourselves and the UAL into the conflict as well? You're spouting purely unsupported bullshit here. My 1 LA member will rekt u all. Stop crying over a 3 man alliance tearin up ur shit. In case this is just some advanced shitposting, I'm letting you know now that L-PACE considers this to be a very serious threat, and we will respond with maximum force.
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Post by Autolykos on Feb 4, 2015 22:01:09 GMT
My 1 LA member will rekt u all. Stop crying over a 3 man alliance tearin up ur shit. In case this is just some advanced shitposting, I'm letting you know now that L-PACE considers this to be a very serious threat, and we will respond with maximum force. Who is L-Pace??
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Post by edr on Feb 4, 2015 22:07:20 GMT
UAL hereby nullifies our NAPs with L-PACE and the Second Reich, as a result of their declaring wars of aggression. This lack of peace shall become valid 24 hours from now, according to the general consensus on the nullification of non-aggression pacts. After that point, due to our MDOAP with VG, we would have full legal justification for declaring war on either of you, though we do not yet express desire to do so. I would greatly prefer it if peace could be reached before than. Sincerely, a bigger alliance than you. On mobile. If you were inclined to peace, maybe you would have tried to communicate with L-PACE instead of taking this shit straight to the forums. And also, flexing your alliance's "muh strength" doesn't go far in diplomatic relations if you even did want peace, but instead suggests that you want this war for farming. From what I can scrape from the forums, VG has literally no casus belli for warring the L-PACE and Second Reich, and you're just jumping on the bandwagon to farm whatever you can from them. Just take the diplomacy to an irc channel and bring a mediator.
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Post by edr on Feb 4, 2015 22:11:29 GMT
Also, an Africa-based alliance and another alliance with 1 LA member are attacking two LA-based alliances.
This war is pointless, just peace out already.
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Post by Autolykos on Feb 4, 2015 22:53:46 GMT
Also, an Africa-based alliance and another alliance with 1 LA member are attacking two LA-based alliances. This war is pointless, just peace out already. 2nd reich jumped on a bw aswell m8 the only ppl here that are wrongaroo is 2nd reich and lpace
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Post by TheGreatPterodactlColterKaiser on Feb 5, 2015 2:08:47 GMT
The Varangian Guard declares war on the L-PACE and The 2nd Reich in defense of the Left Coalition and ourselves, you goddamn aggressors.
and yeh, rip pilot. that was some unnecessary shit
DAMAGE INFLICTED BY THE GUARD 2nd Reich casualties sitting at somewhere around; 60 - 80k troops L-PACE casualties; none of yet
Don't believe this propaganda. VG was already attacking the Union as retaliation for raiding with my approval. UAL hereby nullifies our NAPs with L-PACE and the Second Reich, as a result of their declaring wars of aggression. This lack of peace shall become valid 24 hours from now, according to the general consensus on the nullification of non-aggression pacts. After that point, due to our MDOAP with VG, we would have full legal justification for declaring war on either of you, though we do not yet express desire to do so. I would greatly prefer it if peace could be reached before than. Sincerely, a bigger alliance than you. >optional aggression pact taking precedence over an NAPUAL confirmed liars liars plants for hire and untrustworthy gommunists
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Post by edr on Feb 5, 2015 2:20:20 GMT
It'd be incredibly interesting to see each other's perspectives in irc.
but >implying that would ever happen because "ah'm right" and stale meta
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Post by obongothemighty on Feb 5, 2015 2:40:54 GMT
It'd be incredibly interesting to see each other's perspectives in irc. but >implying that would ever happen because "ah'm right" and stale metaIt's been less than half a day since hostilities began. Colter, Emily, Brian, Lykos and I will all meet up when we can and talk this out.
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Post by taikuh on Feb 5, 2015 2:45:28 GMT
Unbiased NAM's warpoints analysis: Whose War Is It Anyway? editionL-PACE: 2pts for legit RP-based CB against LC - 1pt for accepting Second Reich's RP-less, pact-less entry + 4pts for VG's RP-less, pact-less (or secret pact as Lykos claims) entry + 4pts for UAL's iffy entry based on VG's entry = 9 points 5 pointsLC: 3pts for receiving L-PACE's sound CB + 4pts for receiving Second Reich's unsound CB - 1pt for accepting VG's unsound entry - 1pt for accepting UAL's unsound entry + 2 arbitrary pts for being first target of first war in 3.8 era = 7 points 8 pointsSecond Reich: -5pts for unsound CB against LC + 4pts for VG's unsound entry + 4pts for UAL's unsound entry = 3 points -1 point --> 1 point cuz of baby eaters [?]VG: -5pts for unsound entry + 2 arbitrary pts for balancing out the then out-numbered LC = -3 pointsUAL: -5pts for unsound entry - 2 arbitrary pts for bullying actions not befitting a rank 4 alliance = -7 points [?]But seriously, L-PACE's actions I get. LC taking it like men I get. But the rest of you? For shame! RP better for better CBs or take your random power grabs elsewhere and leave L-PACE and LC to it. Do CBs and pacts not mean anything anymore? edit: MY BAD I SHOULD READ MORE GOOD NEXT TIME UAL ISN'T EVEN AT WAR
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Post by lm_Brian on Feb 5, 2015 3:43:00 GMT
Unbiased NAM's warpoints analysis: L-PACE: 2pts for legit RP-based CB against LC Since when was "Meh roleplay" a valid casus belli for war? How would you like to see some barbarian alliance come and fuck up everyone you care about because they feel so against the concept of peaceful coexistence? What, so other people wanting to help you since you got attacked for literally no valid reason costs you points? Having allies in a game about alliances is now a bad thing? Implying we've entered the war, we haven't. All I have done is lose faith in L-PACE and the second reich for warmongering, and tried to encourage they make peace. Having an NAP means recognizing them as deserving a state of peace, which there own actions have shown is not true. Implying the left coalition is happy with this war? Or that smaller alliances don't have a right to be defended from attackers, if the attacker is just 'roleplaying'? I thought you would be the first to side with peace, taikuh. People have friends, that they don't want to see destroyed if they can possibly stop it. That is all VG did, that is all I am doing. From what I have seen L-PACE and SR are both acting with the intent of getting hegemony in LA, and for the profits of war. That is a cause that I will always be against.
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Post by taikuh on Feb 5, 2015 3:49:31 GMT
Since when was "Meh roleplay" a valid casus belli for war? How would you like to see some barbarian alliance come and fuck up everyone you care about because they feel so against the concept of peaceful coexistence? Honestly, I've only been around partway through 3.0, witnessing CBs that boiled down to raiding disputes and pre-emptive strikes. I just thunk that in BLOC, a geopolitical simulator of third world nations during the Cold War, would be accepting of CBs based on roleplay. Ayy that is my fault for sure. I can't into reading comprehension after my restless insomniatic sleep. UAL shouldn't even be in the points thing cuz you guys didn't even declare anything, only a nullified NAP. Not implying LC is happy. Speaking from experience, I wouldn't be happy being at the receiving end of a surprise war dec. I agree with you that we should seek peace. If I could be present at the peace talks between Obongo, Emily, Colter, Lykos, and yourself, that would be neato burrito.
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Post by Autolykos on Feb 5, 2015 4:19:33 GMT
MY TERMS FOR THE FUCKERY TO STOP, THE L-PACE MUST GIVE REPS TO THE LEFT COALITION (LC can decide upon what reps will be satisfactory) THEGREATMANCOLTER OF THE SECOND REICH MUST PROVIDE BELLY + THIGH PICS, MAKE SURE ARE TIMESTAMPED
THESE ARE MY TERMS FOR PEACE IN THE MIDDLE-EAST LATIN AMERICA
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Post by taikuh on Feb 5, 2015 4:31:54 GMT
MY TERMS FOR THE FUCKERY TO STOP, THE L-PACE MUST GIVE REPS TO THE LEFT COALITION (LC can decide upon what reps will be satisfactory) THEGREATMANCOLTER OF THE SECOND REICH MUST PROVIDE BELLY + THIGH PICS, MAKE SURE ARE TIMESTAMPED
THESE ARE MY TERMS FOR PEACE IN THE MIDDLE-EAST LATIN AMERICA Also, L-PACE members must post only in Spanish or Carib pidgin for the rest of this iteration of BLOC.
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Post by Autolykos on Feb 5, 2015 4:53:06 GMT
MY TERMS FOR THE FUCKERY TO STOP, THE L-PACE MUST GIVE REPS TO THE LEFT COALITION (LC can decide upon what reps will be satisfactory) THEGREATMANCOLTER OF THE SECOND REICH MUST PROVIDE BELLY + THIGH PICS, MAKE SURE ARE TIMESTAMPED
THESE ARE MY TERMS FOR PEACE IN THE MIDDLE-EAST LATIN AMERICA Also, L-PACE members must post only in Spanish or Carib pidgin for the rest of this iteration of BLOC. They must have an English translation of what they are saying underneath it as well, because I cannot be bothered opening g translate. Too much work
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