Estagon
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Post by Estagon on May 1, 2015 13:30:13 GMT
When I told you to pay reparations through normal Bloc communiques though you said that you would have done it, if the NLR peaced out Africanistan. He peaced him out and he didn't see any of the reparations. I am not sure if denying things in this way is playing fair. And I allow shills in my alliance for a reason that you will probably see very soon. And since our NAP is null and void, as you are lying about its conditions, I break it. In 24 hours we won't have any treaty. But if I catch even one of your members attacking one of us - I don't care if this one of us is inactive, at this point, as you have not cared - he will be slaughtered. And you'd better pay those reparations. If you do not, then you really have no honor. Actually I didn't agree to reparations because the communique I responded to asked only for him to peace out and nothing about reparations. "I allow shills in my alliance for a reason that you will probably see very soon." = "I'm a hypocrite and using shills and mulits are #allpartoftheplan to use to my advantage". I'm fairly confident I knew what I signed and what I didn't. Consider the same treatment you've always received when one of your members attacks one of ours. You don't get to have reparations to be a one sided thing, you should've paid the damages for Africanistan. 1) "You don't get to have reparations to be a one sided thing, you should've paid the damages for Africanistan" --- Read the messages down upward.  Maybe I cannot read, but it looks like you agreed to peace and reparations if the NLR peaced out (and he did), and you didn't even deny those NAP clauses. I expect reparations to be paid in 24 hours. 2) "I allow shills in my alliance for a reason that you will probably see very soon." = "I'm a hypocrite and using shills and mulits are #allpartoftheplan to use to my advantage" --- Not kicking players paid by other ones to spy my alliance is not hypocrisy. But hey if you cannot understand what I wrote it's not my fault. 3) "I'm fairly confident I knew what I signed and what I didn't" --- I am fairly confident that you are just a liar, as always. 4) "Consider the same treatment you've always received when one of your members attacks one of ours." --- And you consider our diplomatic time to be ended right now. With you it is not diplomacy, it is a mix of lies, threats and occasional insults. |
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Post by robosax on May 1, 2015 14:26:35 GMT
Actually I didn't agree to reparations because the communique I responded to asked only for him to peace out and nothing about reparations. "I allow shills in my alliance for a reason that you will probably see very soon." = "I'm a hypocrite and using shills and mulits are #allpartoftheplan to use to my advantage". I'm fairly confident I knew what I signed and what I didn't. Consider the same treatment you've always received when one of your members attacks one of ours. You don't get to have reparations to be a one sided thing, you should've paid the damages for Africanistan. 1) "You don't get to have reparations to be a one sided thing, you should've paid the damages for Africanistan" --- Read the messages down upward. Maybe I cannot read, but it looks like you agreed to peace and reparations if the NLR peaced out (and he did), and you didn't even deny those NAP clauses. I expect reparations to be paid in 24 hours. 2) "I allow shills in my alliance for a reason that you will probably see very soon." = "I'm a hypocrite and using shills and mulits are #allpartoftheplan to use to my advantage" --- Not kicking players paid by other ones to spy my alliance is not hypocrisy. But hey if you cannot understand what I wrote it's not my fault. 3) "I'm fairly confident I knew what I signed and what I didn't" --- I am fairly confident that you are just a liar, as always. 4) "Consider the same treatment you've always received when one of your members attacks one of ours." --- And you consider our diplomatic time to be ended right now. With you it is not diplomacy, it is a mix of lies, threats and occasional insults.  Spirits was to peace but then NLR thought it would be a great idea to bomb first next turn change as revenge for his initial attack when Spirits was told to only return fire in which he did again and then Africanistan became active again. Reparations will only be paid if you pay for the damages caused to Africanistan also. You allowed and used mulits/shills before in 3.5 and still do in 3.8 . Do you even know what a shill does? Shills don't login every turn or so on their multiple accounts to feed themselves resources because thats what mulits do and what those members are. Shills actually interact as a real human being in order to advance themselves through the alliance and gain trust so there is no point for the supposed "shills" in your alliance to sit dormant multiple accounts and act as resource banks for the alliance they're suppose be "shilling". But since your alliance is open to all the players, such as shills, mulits, and other cheaters as long as when the time comes, they won't stand back to help you I guess it is okay in your mind. This is all honestly as I have no reason to lie about clauses of a NAP. This all started with NLR attempting to raid another member as tensions was already high due to him raiding Dracolis and getting attacked for it which got him mad enough to naval bomb which got him attacked again. Which made him feel like he was owed reps even tho he was the aggressor. My diplomacy is solid when I'm not dealing with untrustworthy fakes. |
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Estagon
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Post by Estagon on May 1, 2015 16:34:17 GMT
With your picture you just added more stuff before of mine. But nothing changes. You still promised peace and reparations. And the NLR bombed Spitits legitly, as when you promised peace I was sleeping and nobody told him "hey, you will have peace". I am not on Bloc 24/7, but if this is the matter for us to lose 80k men, then there is something wrong. Pay reparations. You promised it. And Africanistan sent a message to the NLR allowing him to finish him.
I know what a shill does, but it doesn't necessarily have to be a multi account. Our spies web is not made of multi accounts, for example. If yours are it is not my problem.
Your reason to lie is that like this you won't pay any reparations nor kick SPitits from BoZ, like our clauses stated. The reparations are not for the incident regarding Dracolis, we already got them gaining a new member. They are for te one regarding Africanistan.
Your diplomacy is itself an untrustworthy fake, so I don't expect it to be solid.
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Post by robosax on May 1, 2015 17:14:24 GMT
With your picture you just added more stuff before of mine. But nothing changes. You still promised peace and reparations. And the NLR bombed Spitits legitly, as when you promised peace I was sleeping and nobody told him "hey, you will have peace". I am not on Bloc 24/7, but if this is the matter for us to lose 80k men, then there is something wrong. Pay reparations. You promised it. And Africanistan sent a message to the NLR allowing him to finish him. I know what a shill does, but it doesn't necessarily have to be a multi account. Our spies web is not made of multi accounts, for example. If yours are it is not my problem. Your reason to lie is that like this you won't pay any reparations nor kick SPitits from BoZ, like our clauses stated. The reparations are not for the incident regarding Dracolis, we already got them gaining a new member. They are for te one regarding Africanistan. Your diplomacy is itself an untrustworthy fake, so I don't expect it to be solid. I promised peace before NLR attacked again, he should've been able to restraint himself as my guy was holding off until he was attacked again. I doubt that your spy web isn't made of multis just like how your alliance isn't . You've been untrustworthy and fake ever since you contacted me in 3.5 . My diplomacy is solid and straight forward and you aren't due one sided reps. |
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Post by KALESHNIA on May 1, 2015 18:19:18 GMT
Only 90s kids will remember when this thread was about niggers and oil.
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Post by sirscarf on May 1, 2015 21:07:31 GMT
Only 90s kids will remember when this thread was about niggers and oil. Wait, sheesh, this is the same thread? Good grief. Someone make a new topic already. |
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Estagon
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Post by Estagon on May 1, 2015 21:33:37 GMT
With your picture you just added more stuff before of mine. But nothing changes. You still promised peace and reparations. And the NLR bombed Spitits legitly, as when you promised peace I was sleeping and nobody told him "hey, you will have peace". I am not on Bloc 24/7, but if this is the matter for us to lose 80k men, then there is something wrong. Pay reparations. You promised it. And Africanistan sent a message to the NLR allowing him to finish him. I know what a shill does, but it doesn't necessarily have to be a multi account. Our spies web is not made of multi accounts, for example. If yours are it is not my problem. Your reason to lie is that like this you won't pay any reparations nor kick SPitits from BoZ, like our clauses stated. The reparations are not for the incident regarding Dracolis, we already got them gaining a new member. They are for te one regarding Africanistan. Your diplomacy is itself an untrustworthy fake, so I don't expect it to be solid. I promised peace before NLR attacked again, he should've been able to restraint himself as my guy was holding off until he was attacked again. I doubt that your spy web isn't made of multis just like how your alliance isn't . You've been untrustworthy and fake ever since you contacted me in 3.5 . My diplomacy is solid and straight forward and you aren't due one sided reps. After that he did not attack anymore ^^ You are obviously confused, Roby. And feel free to think what you want to think. But your diplomacy is nothing more than you being arrogant and claiming your superiority over all. Here on the forum you are less (and I am more, because I am sick of your lies), but it doesn't change the fact that your words are true as it is true that I am Barack Obama. And this is the last time I will tell you: pay reparations. |
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Post by Estagon on May 1, 2015 21:36:59 GMT
Only 90s kids will remember when this thread was about niggers and oil. Don't say it! Don't break our victory, right now that I and Robosex successfully changed the topic D: |
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Post by robosax on May 1, 2015 22:04:59 GMT
I promised peace before NLR attacked again, he should've been able to restraint himself as my guy was holding off until he was attacked again. I doubt that your spy web isn't made of multis just like how your alliance isn't . You've been untrustworthy and fake ever since you contacted me in 3.5 . My diplomacy is solid and straight forward and you aren't due one sided reps. After that he did not attack anymore ^^ You are obviously confused, Roby. And feel free to think what you want to think. But your diplomacy is nothing more than you being arrogant and claiming your superiority over all. Here on the forum you are less (and I am more, because I am sick of your lies), but it doesn't change the fact that your words are true as it is true that I am Barack Obama. And this is the last time I will tell you: pay reparations. NLR naval bombed 16k of his troops and then Spirits ground attacked him and killed 40kish of NLR's troops so I think thats a factor on why NLR didn't try to bomb again. If he never bombed he would've never lost those troops. No one sided reparations. If you want reparation you pay for the damages you've caused also. |
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Post by swedeinstan on May 3, 2015 20:30:56 GMT
One-sided reparations are simply not happening and the Divine League has zero grounds for requesting them without also offering reps for damages their guy caused, especially when the raid was from one of their guys. They started this shit, they don't get to set terms for its conclusion or get to play the victim.
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Post by Estagon on May 3, 2015 21:09:45 GMT
One-sided reparations are simply not happening and the Divine League has zero grounds for requesting them without also offering reps for damages their guy caused, especially when the raid was from one of their guys. They started this shit, they don't get to set terms for its conclusion or get to play the victim. I am sick of this stuff to still not be clear. I request a meeting with you on Skype, so I can explain what happened without of Robolies flowing around. We didn't start this shit, and we set terms for it to reach its conclusion many times. But I'd like to pont out that it's the faulty diplomacy conducted by our common friend Robosax that brought a stupid incident to (almost) turn in a war. |
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Post by robosax on May 4, 2015 0:47:04 GMT
One-sided reparations are simply not happening and the Divine League has zero grounds for requesting them without also offering reps for damages their guy caused, especially when the raid was from one of their guys. They started this shit, they don't get to set terms for its conclusion or get to play the victim. I am sick of this stuff to still not be clear. I request a meeting with you on Skype, so I can explain what happened without of Robolies flowing around. We didn't start this shit, and we set terms for it to reach its conclusion many times. But I'd like to pont out that it's the faulty diplomacy conducted by our common friend Robosax that brought a stupid incident to (almost) turn in a war. Lets start from the very start. Kaleshnia(NSOP or whatever its called) raids Africanistan(BoZ, hes active at this point), Spirits(BoZ) attacks and starts hitting Kaleshina(NSOP) and is later declared on by New-Rhodesia(INNA). Spirits(BoZ) totally destroys Kaleshina and tells New Rhodesia(INNA) to not attack while hes in the progress of dealing punishment to Kaleshina but he bombs and gasses him so once Spritis(BoZ) is done with Kaleshina he begins to attack New-Rhodesia(INNA) . Now this is where Divine league intervenes with no right to do so. New-Rhodesia hops alliance to Divine league and Spirits receives this comm:  NLR(DI) has no right to intervene with demands or threats especially considering New-Rhodesian was the one who was raiding. NLR(DI) is to told to screw off and allow the war to come to its natural conclusion but NLR(DL) and the Divine league starts supporting Rhodesian with troops and supplies which was a act of aggression. New-Rhodesian(DI) later apologizes and is spared with a simple defeat.  Spritis ignores this comm and everything is peaceful for awhile. But NLR(DI) attacks an inactive BoZ member who later becomes active Dracolis(BoZ) and gasses NLR(DI). Instead of taking the loss of GDP and having peace NLR(DI) decides he will continue on attacking until Dracolis is defeated or he is paid one sided reparations for his GDP and not the damages done to Dracolis(BoZ) so hes declared and hit by Spritis(BoZ) this stops NLR from attacking Dracolis(BoZ) any further and both sides prep for war. Dracolis(BoZ) later gets tired of being in a war and causing such a war so he joins Divine league and becomes Inactive. Now lets talk about the last and current affair. NLR(DI) attacks Africanistan(BoZ) whose around 60 hours offline. Spirits(BoZ) yet again attacks NLR(DI) and tells him any further attacks on Africanistan or Himself will result into another hit. NLR(DI) of course naval bombs him 12 hours later and is hit again. Africanistan becomes active again after his internet is fixed and peace is had but NLR(DI) wants one sided reparations for his damages which wasn't going to happen.  Current affair: New-Rhodesia(DI) attacks Africanistan(BoZ) when he was 13 hours offline as he had a weak military from the past conflict, New-Rhodesia excuse is that he made a mistake and thought he was inactive so he was told to not attack any further until later.  New-Rhodesia(DI) waits and defeats Africanistan(BoZ) but guess whose spying Spirits(BoZ) ?  Warning to NLR(DI) and New-Rhodesia(DI)  But:  So now New-Rhodesian is being dealt with as NLR or DI didn't seem to care about the warning yet again. |
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Post by KALESHNIA on May 4, 2015 1:22:35 GMT
I am sick of this stuff to still not be clear. I request a meeting with you on Skype, so I can explain what happened without of Robolies flowing around. We didn't start this shit, and we set terms for it to reach its conclusion many times. But I'd like to pont out that it's the faulty diplomacy conducted by our common friend Robosax that brought a stupid incident to (almost) turn in a war. Lets start from the very start. Kaleshnia(NSOP or whatever its called) raids Africanistan(BoZ, hes active at this point), Spirits(BoZ) attacks and starts hitting Kaleshina(NSOP) and is later declared on by New-Rhodesia(INNA). Spirits(BoZ) totally destroys Kaleshina and tells New Rhodesia(INNA) to not attack while hes in the progress of dealing punishment to Kaleshina but he bombs and gasses him so once Spritis(BoZ) is done with Kaleshina he begins to attack New-Rhodesia(INNA) . Now this is where Divine league intervenes with no right to do so. New-Rhodesia hops alliance to Divine league and Spirits receives this comm: NLR(DI) has no right to intervene with demands or threats especially considering New-Rhodesian was the one who was raiding. NLR(DI) is to told to screw off and allow the war to come to its natural conclusion but NLR(DL) and the Divine league starts supporting Rhodesian with troops and supplies which was a act of aggression. New-Rhodesian(DI) later apologizes and is spared with a simple defeat. Spritis ignores this comm and everything is peaceful for awhile. But NLR(DI) attacks an inactive BoZ member who later becomes active Dracolis(BoZ) and gasses NLR(DI). Instead of taking the loss of GDP and having peace NLR(DI) decides he will continue on attacking until Dracolis is defeated or he is paid one sided reparations for his GDP and not the damages done to Dracolis(BoZ) so hes declared and hit by Spritis(BoZ) this stops NLR from attacking Dracolis(BoZ) any further and both sides prep for war. Dracolis(BoZ) later gets tired of being in a war and causing such a war so he joins Divine league and becomes Inactive. Now lets talk about the last and current affair. NLR(DI) attacks Africanistan(BoZ) whose around 60 hours offline. Spirits(BoZ) yet again attacks NLR(DI) and tells him any further attacks on Africanistan or Himself will result into another hit. NLR(DI) of course naval bombs him 12 hours later and is hit again. Africanistan becomes active again after his internet is fixed and peace is had but NLR(DI) wants one sided reparations for his damages which wasn't going to happen. Current affair: New-Rhodesia(DI) attacks Africanistan(BoZ) when he was 13 hours offline as he had a weak military from the past conflict, New-Rhodesia excuse is that he made a mistake and thought he was inactive so he was told to not attack any further until later. New-Rhodesia(DI) waits and defeats Africanistan(BoZ) but guess whose spying Spirits(BoZ) ? Warning to NLR(DI) and New-Rhodesia(DI) But: So now New-Rhodesian is being dealt with as NLR or DI didn't seem to care about the warning yet again. New Rhodesia intervened because PBE had an ODP with PayBack Enterprises (what I was in at the time of the great kike multi crisis). Just because NLR jumped in doesn't mean you have any right to hit Rhodesia. Instead, you should have hit NLR, because he's the one who caused the damage. You took this situation way out of line. You should both sit down and negotiate like men over skype instead of shitposting all over a forum about multis. |
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Post by sirscarf on May 21, 2019 4:36:50 GMT
And for the record, I remember someone actually admitted to running all of those alliances in Skype. I forget exactly who, but it turns out it wasn't anyone we suspected at all, and he never sent his resources anywhere; the whole thing had nothing to do with any of the drama between the rest of us. Estagon, Robosax, Lykos and Brian were all innocent of the affair; for all their other crimes they weren't running the Petroleum alliances. Also NLR dindu nuffin, but that's an entirely separate matter  |
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