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Post by Estagon on Apr 30, 2015 11:02:46 GMT
You should have taken the screenshot for real. Especially because as you refused to log in with his account (claiming that you would never join another account but your), I immediately changed the password. Though, I won't lie as you are doing: It is true that Pantheon started as second nation to save myself from boredom, in 3.5, but few weeks after the start of 3.8 I gifted the account to a friend I met during a travel who was (and actually is) into these kinds of games. Now I don't have any second nation, and you can notice it even just by looking at how I take care of Wladimiria. I don't bother giving it a decent tech/army/economy: Would I bother managing multis like you do? Also, regarding GUNK: Don't pretend that the only happenings are the ones you can see. We needed two more turns to disband it, but then Rumsod reset this game and I found myself attacking the ex GUNK members in 3.8. If it isn't a victory having them to quit the game, I am not sure about what it is. I gave officership to El Salvador because he was our first member, and there is a complex background behind his betrayal that I won't bother explaining you. And, if you will give me a list of DL multis, I will be happy to prove that you are just having a mistake. #getashill. Otherwise you will never understand how it works in DL. But oh, wait! You already have one! And actually it is one of your multis! How can you still not understand how the alliance works then? With our guys in BoZ we understood pretty well how you run it; how is it possible that I, leader of an alliance made of "cheaters, raiders and other scum", am better at learning than the leader of the mighty BoZ? It surely is some weird kind of superpower conceded by my massive use of non existent multis, isn't it? I honestly didn't think someone would actually give their password out. I even stated in the IRC that it was a bit weird and I really didn't want to but I did check. What does your handling of Wladimiria have to do with anything? Maybe you feel too comfortable with the immediate support you would receive from your other accounts incase of anything happening? I dealt with Dyslexia and his GUNK thing for awhile and nothing ever happened to them in your alliance even when I refused your pact because you were harboring them. El Salvador was actually caught aiding and spying for Dyslexia and you gave him Officership. Just having a mistake? For starts, explain to me the nations of: Heraclea, Memnon, and Lamia. These nations have similar offline times, builds, and IDS. Not multis? Let me know if you need more names. Whose my shill/multi in divine league because I believe I don't have one. Whats your viewpoint on how I run BoZ and how DI is ran? You always seem to take the "Cheaters, raiders, and other scum" out of context, I stated "You would think you would've learned the lesson after all that? Raiders, cheaters, and various other scum never win. Count on it." Do you view yourself as those raiders, cheaters, and various scum? I gave you his temporary password so you could check his communiques. If you did anything weird you would have gained us as enemies. Otherwise you should have peaced out. I still have the logs of that conversation when you promised peace for Pantheon, if you want I can post them here. Also, I didn't receive any support from my "multis" when I was at the brink of being defeated during the war against INNAWDS, nor I got it few turns ago, when an INNAWDS member didn't check my inactive time and attacked me due to my insignificant tech and army. Regarding GUNK, I knew to have some of their spies in my alliance. It was my choice having them as guests, in order to use the informations they would have shilled to Dsylexia against them. I had a pretty articolated plan. And I also knew about El Salvador spying and aiding for him: his actions were helpful to make my plot working, if I remember well. Regarding Heraclea etc. My opinion is that they are shills. And they can stay and do all their shill stuff. My alliance is open to all the players, as long as when the time comes, they won't stand back. Regarding your shill/multi, I won't bother telling you. I prefer you to doubt about the information he will get. Will they be true, or they won't? Am I right or am I wrong? I think it is more effective than just giving you the evidence that I spotted him. At the same way, I won't dishonor my words by talking about the way you run BoZ. Just know that I would not approve it ^^ and that if I had multis I wouldn't use them for propaganda in my own alliance. Regarding how I run DL instead, I prefer you to put your mind at work and get it: It is not a big secret. Talking about your insults to my alliance instead, since you "generically and casually" said them while we were negotiating peace or war, and since we were the only ones involved in that discussion, and the discussion didn't include other alliances, those words are referred either to us or to BoZ. Personally, I think they fit your alliance more than mine, but nevermind. I don't feel touched by your insults (and I am not talking just about these ones). My members do instead. And you haven't even been paying reparations. You should do it fast, otherwise we will see the attack on the NLR as a breaking of our NAP and annihilate Spitits, as the NAP clauses allow us to do it, while you should kick him from BoZ.
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Post by Estagon on Apr 30, 2015 11:21:02 GMT
Just to be straight and honest, here is the part where we signed the NAP, agreed the rekting of Alamut by us and Pantheon peaced out: [17:53] <Robosax> alright peace m8 i will wait till meri responds to me [17:54] <Estagon1> thanks [17:54] <Estagon1> so, NAP - Alamut left - Pantheon peaced out [17:54] <Estagon1> great [17:54] <Estagon1> I think I misjudged you a lot the past weeks [17:55] <Robosax> Yeah no problem The only problem is that so far: Pantheon has been defeated, with you breaking your promises; the NAP has been broken, with you still not paying reparations nor purging him from BoZ; Alamut has been rekted... Because he went offline and never came back!
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Post by robosax on Apr 30, 2015 11:24:33 GMT
Just to be straight and honest, here is the part where we signed the NAP, agreed the rekting of Alamut by us and Pantheon peaced out: [17:53] <Robosax> alright peace m8 i will wait till meri responds to me [17:54] <Estagon1> thanks [17:54] <Estagon1> so, NAP - Alamut left - Pantheon peaced out [17:54] <Estagon1> great [17:54] <Estagon1> I think I misjudged you a lot the past weeks [17:55] <Robosax> Yeah no problem The only problem is that so far: Pantheon has been defeated, with you breaking your promises; the NAP has been broken, with you still not paying reparations nor purging him from BoZ; Alamut has been rekted... Because he went offline and never came back! Why only put that part and not the full logs? pastebin.com/j3MKRi0D , the very first lines say he will be defeated.
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Post by robosax on Apr 30, 2015 11:41:58 GMT
I honestly didn't think someone would actually give their password out. I even stated in the IRC that it was a bit weird and I really didn't want to but I did check. What does your handling of Wladimiria have to do with anything? Maybe you feel too comfortable with the immediate support you would receive from your other accounts incase of anything happening? I dealt with Dyslexia and his GUNK thing for awhile and nothing ever happened to them in your alliance even when I refused your pact because you were harboring them. El Salvador was actually caught aiding and spying for Dyslexia and you gave him Officership. Just having a mistake? For starts, explain to me the nations of: Heraclea, Memnon, and Lamia. These nations have similar offline times, builds, and IDS. Not multis? Let me know if you need more names. Whose my shill/multi in divine league because I believe I don't have one. Whats your viewpoint on how I run BoZ and how DI is ran? You always seem to take the "Cheaters, raiders, and other scum" out of context, I stated "You would think you would've learned the lesson after all that? Raiders, cheaters, and various other scum never win. Count on it." Do you view yourself as those raiders, cheaters, and various scum? I gave you his temporary password so you could check his communiques. If you did anything weird you would have gained us as enemies. Otherwise you should have peaced out. I still have the logs of that conversation when you promised peace for Pantheon, if you want I can post them here. Also, I didn't receive any support from my "multis" when I was at the brink of being defeated during the war against INNAWDS, nor I got it few turns ago, when an INNAWDS member didn't check my inactive time and attacked me due to my insignificant tech and army. Regarding GUNK, I knew to have some of their spies in my alliance. It was my choice having them as guests, in order to use the informations they would have shilled to Dsylexia against them. I had a pretty articolated plan. And I also knew about El Salvador spying and aiding for him: his actions were helpful to make my plot working, if I remember well. Regarding Heraclea etc. My opinion is that they are shills. And they can stay and do all their shill stuff. My alliance is open to all the players, as long as when the time comes, they won't stand back. Regarding your shill/multi, I won't bother telling you. I prefer you to doubt about the information he will get. Will they be true, or they won't? Am I right or am I wrong? I think it is more effective than just giving you the evidence that I spotted him. At the same way, I won't dishonor my words by talking about the way you run BoZ. Just know that I would not approve it ^^ and that if I had multis I wouldn't use them for propaganda in my own alliance. Regarding how I run DL instead, I prefer you to put your mind at work and get it: It is not a big secret. Talking about your insults to my alliance instead, since you "generically and casually" said them while we were negotiating peace or war, and since we were the only ones involved in that discussion, and the discussion didn't include other alliances, those words are referred either to us or to BoZ. Personally, I think they fit your alliance more than mine, but nevermind. I don't feel touched by your insults (and I am not talking just about these ones). My members do instead. And you haven't even been paying reparations. You should do it fast, otherwise we will see the attack on the NLR as a breaking of our NAP and annihilate Spitits, as the NAP clauses allow us to do it, while you should kick him from BoZ. What kind of hypocrisy is this? So as long as you believe the mulits have "info" or are "shills" you allow them to make up the majority and foundation of your alliance and use that as an advantage. You can't seem to answer my other questions but you did answer that DI is filled with multis. Post the full raider, cheater, scum comm and you can see I mentioned no alliance but a few names of raiders and cheaters. Why should Spitits pay reps when it was your member that raided? What NAP clauses are you even talking about? It was a standard NAP
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Estagon
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Post by Estagon on Apr 30, 2015 12:04:20 GMT
It was not, even I don't have the logs of the other parts due to Firefox crashing. But if you want to do like this, just know that you gathered many enemies right now. The first lines say that he will be defeated, and at the end I say, just to get a confirmation : so, NAP - Alamut left - Pantheon peaced out. Great. I think I misjudged you a lot in the past weeks. And you replied with a "Yeah, no problem". If you didn't confirm what I said, then why on Earth you wrote that? Also, you have to pay reparations because the NLR attacked an INACTIVE member, who kept being inactive when Spitits attacked. I have the screenshots, so I can prove it. So he will pay reparations or be killed, as agreed with our NAP, even now you are denying it. Also, I didn't say that DL is filled with multis. I just said that Heraclea etc. are shills. And if you want to talk about multis, why not talking about your alliance members with the same inactivity time, who come online all together and ship resources to each other without of apparent matters? We caught large sums of money coming from 400 GDP nations to your guys. But I am sure it is a coincidence, isn't it?
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Post by Estagon on Apr 30, 2015 12:07:06 GMT
The NAP clauses were immediate kicking of raiders, and doublefronting. It was the minimum I wanted to plain our tensions, that time. But you seem like you want tensions to rise again. Like they say in my country, you get what you sow. And you are sowing bad seeds right now.
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Post by Estagon on Apr 30, 2015 12:09:40 GMT
And anyway:
Sqynet has sent you the following communique : He never contacted me about the attack before so your definitely lying now m8. I'm just defending my member from a raider like I've done on various occasions, all with the same result. NLR seems not able to control himself and will be dealt with. If you and your alliance wants war you can come and get it as i'm sure nothing will change and you will share the same fate as NLR, Pantheon, kale, and the others. You would think you would've learned the lesson after all that? Raiders, cheaters, and various other scum never win. Count on it.
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Post by KALESHNIA on Apr 30, 2015 18:50:36 GMT
You should have taken the screenshot for real. Especially because as you refused to log in with his account (claiming that you would never join another account but your), I immediately changed the password. Though, I won't lie as you are doing: It is true that Pantheon started as second nation to save myself from boredom, in 3.5, but few weeks after the start of 3.8 I gifted the account to a friend I met during a travel who was (and actually is) into these kinds of games. Now I don't have any second nation, and you can notice it even just by looking at how I take care of Wladimiria. I don't bother giving it a decent tech/army/economy: Would I bother managing multis like you do? Also, regarding GUNK: Don't pretend that the only happenings are the ones you can see. We needed two more turns to disband it, but then Rumsod reset this game and I found myself attacking the ex GUNK members in 3.8. If it isn't a victory having them to quit the game, I am not sure about what it is. I gave officership to El Salvador because he was our first member, and there is a complex background behind his betrayal that I won't bother explaining you. And, if you will give me a list of DL multis, I will be happy to prove that you are just having a mistake. #getashill. Otherwise you will never understand how it works in DL. But oh, wait! You already have one! And actually it is one of your multis! How can you still not understand how the alliance works then? With our guys in BoZ we understood pretty well how you run it; how is it possible that I, leader of an alliance made of "cheaters, raiders and other scum", am better at learning than the leader of the mighty BoZ? It surely is some weird kind of superpower conceded by my massive use of non existent multis, isn't it? I honestly didn't think someone would actually give their password out. I even stated in the IRC that it was a bit weird and I really didn't want to but I did check. What does your handling of Wladimiria have to do with anything? Maybe you feel too comfortable with the immediate support you would receive from your other accounts incase of anything happening? I dealt with Dyslexia and his GUNK thing for awhile and nothing ever happened to them in your alliance even when I refused your pact because you were harboring them. El Salvador was actually caught aiding and spying for Dyslexia and you gave him Officership. Just having a mistake? For starts, explain to me the nations of: Heraclea, Memnon, and Lamia. These nations have similar offline times, builds, and IDS. Not multis? Let me know if you need more names. Whose my shill/multi in divine league because I believe I don't have one. Whats your viewpoint on how I run BoZ and how DI is ran? You always seem to take the "Cheaters, raiders, and other scum" out of context, I stated "You would think you would've learned the lesson after all that? Raiders, cheaters, and various other scum never win. Count on it." Do you view yourself as those raiders, cheaters, and various scum? I gave my password to a close ally (whom no longer plays) when I went on vacation a year ago. Having friends is scary, I know, but it pays off over time.
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Post by robosax on Apr 30, 2015 19:03:02 GMT
I honestly didn't think someone would actually give their password out. I even stated in the IRC that it was a bit weird and I really didn't want to but I did check. What does your handling of Wladimiria have to do with anything? Maybe you feel too comfortable with the immediate support you would receive from your other accounts incase of anything happening? I dealt with Dyslexia and his GUNK thing for awhile and nothing ever happened to them in your alliance even when I refused your pact because you were harboring them. El Salvador was actually caught aiding and spying for Dyslexia and you gave him Officership. Just having a mistake? For starts, explain to me the nations of: Heraclea, Memnon, and Lamia. These nations have similar offline times, builds, and IDS. Not multis? Let me know if you need more names. Whose my shill/multi in divine league because I believe I don't have one. Whats your viewpoint on how I run BoZ and how DI is ran? You always seem to take the "Cheaters, raiders, and other scum" out of context, I stated "You would think you would've learned the lesson after all that? Raiders, cheaters, and various other scum never win. Count on it." Do you view yourself as those raiders, cheaters, and various scum? I gave my password to a close ally (whom no longer plays) when I went on vacation a year ago. Having friends is scary, I know, but it pays off over time. What does that have to do with anything? We were not exactly close allies or friends when he gave me his password which was weird and Wlad still used the account from himself even if it was only suppose to be his "friend" playing.
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Post by robosax on Apr 30, 2015 19:09:16 GMT
It was not, even I don't have the logs of the other parts due to Firefox crashing. But if you want to do like this, just know that you gathered many enemies right now. The first lines say that he will be defeated, and at the end I say, just to get a confirmation : so, NAP - Alamut left - Pantheon peaced out. Great. I think I misjudged you a lot in the past weeks. And you replied with a "Yeah, no problem". If you didn't confirm what I said, then why on Earth you wrote that? Also, you have to pay reparations because the NLR attacked an INACTIVE member, who kept being inactive when Spitits attacked. I have the screenshots, so I can prove it. So he will pay reparations or be killed, as agreed with our NAP, even now you are denying it. Also, I didn't say that DL is filled with multis. I just said that Heraclea etc. are shills. And if you want to talk about multis, why not talking about your alliance members with the same inactivity time, who come online all together and ship resources to each other without of apparent matters? We caught large sums of money coming from 400 GDP nations to your guys. But I am sure it is a coincidence, isn't it? The early logs had nothing but you offering a NAP and talking about the pantheon war. Were we friends before and not enemies? Has anything really changed? When asked if he would be peaced out I responded he would be defeated and that was my statement to that exact question earlier in the chat. The "Yeah, no problem" wasn't a response as I saw there was no question and was a closing farewell due to you having to leave. What do you count as inactive? 72 hours? NLR hit him a few hours before this so he wasn't inactive and the player did return when his internet got repaired so you really should be paying reparations to him for the damages caused to him. "My opinion is that they are shills. And they can stay and do all their shill stuff. My alliance is open to all the players, as long as when the time comes, they won't stand back." This very well proves that you allow "shills"/multis inside your alliance which makes up a very large number of your members. I can list all the other multis but you will just call them shills and "allow them to do all their shill stuff" as an excuse. Whats the point in getting funds from 400 GDP nations? Name one incident where this occurred.
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Post by Estagon on Apr 30, 2015 20:10:10 GMT
It was not, even I don't have the logs of the other parts due to Firefox crashing. But if you want to do like this, just know that you gathered many enemies right now. The first lines say that he will be defeated, and at the end I say, just to get a confirmation : so, NAP - Alamut left - Pantheon peaced out. Great. I think I misjudged you a lot in the past weeks. And you replied with a "Yeah, no problem". If you didn't confirm what I said, then why on Earth you wrote that? Also, you have to pay reparations because the NLR attacked an INACTIVE member, who kept being inactive when Spitits attacked. I have the screenshots, so I can prove it. So he will pay reparations or be killed, as agreed with our NAP, even now you are denying it. Also, I didn't say that DL is filled with multis. I just said that Heraclea etc. are shills. And if you want to talk about multis, why not talking about your alliance members with the same inactivity time, who come online all together and ship resources to each other without of apparent matters? We caught large sums of money coming from 400 GDP nations to your guys. But I am sure it is a coincidence, isn't it? The early logs had nothing but you offering a NAP and talking about the pantheon war. Were we friends before and not enemies? Has anything really changed? When asked if he would be peaced out I responded he would be defeated and that was my statement to that exact question earlier in the chat. The "Yeah, no problem" wasn't a response as I saw there was no question and was a closing farewell due to you having to leave. What do you count as inactive? 72 hours? NLR hit him a few hours before this so he wasn't inactive and the player did return when his internet got repaired so you really should be paying reparations to him for the damages caused to him. "My opinion is that they are shills. And they can stay and do all their shill stuff. My alliance is open to all the players, as long as when the time comes, they won't stand back." This very well proves that you allow "shills"/multis inside your alliance which makes up a very large number of your members. I can list all the other multis but you will just call them shills and "allow them to do all their shill stuff" as an excuse. Whats the point in getting funds from 400 GDP nations? Name one incident where this occurred. Africanistan wrote to the NLR that he could take him over. The NLR still didn't though. Anyway you attacked him breaking our NAP - and even he attacked few hours earlier (which he didn't) then he went inactive so that turned in a legit inactive raid. Pay reps, Robo. Also, post the full logs if you dare ^^ I made it clear that this NAP would have had sever sanctions imposed to transgressors. We weren't friends, but I wanted to give you a chance instead of blindly following anybody who said that you are just a haughty asocial unable to play fair. I did a mistake, not listening to them. I did the same mistake regarding Emily, because I wanted to find their good side, and I failed. But meh. I allow shills in the alliance because they can be used like I was planning to use GUNK shills: Against their masters. It is not so hard, Robo. And anyway they aren't even so many. And you got 9999k money and 50 MGs every few turns for Idiocracy from nations smaller than an handkerchief.
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Post by sirscarf on Apr 30, 2015 23:28:20 GMT
fucking ayy, some cunt posted that while I left my comp. Sorry bruv. S'awright brah /)
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Post by robosax on May 1, 2015 6:55:29 GMT
The early logs had nothing but you offering a NAP and talking about the pantheon war. Were we friends before and not enemies? Has anything really changed? When asked if he would be peaced out I responded he would be defeated and that was my statement to that exact question earlier in the chat. The "Yeah, no problem" wasn't a response as I saw there was no question and was a closing farewell due to you having to leave. What do you count as inactive? 72 hours? NLR hit him a few hours before this so he wasn't inactive and the player did return when his internet got repaired so you really should be paying reparations to him for the damages caused to him. "My opinion is that they are shills. And they can stay and do all their shill stuff. My alliance is open to all the players, as long as when the time comes, they won't stand back." This very well proves that you allow "shills"/multis inside your alliance which makes up a very large number of your members. I can list all the other multis but you will just call them shills and "allow them to do all their shill stuff" as an excuse. Whats the point in getting funds from 400 GDP nations? Name one incident where this occurred. Africanistan wrote to the NLR that he could take him over. The NLR still didn't though. Anyway you attacked him breaking our NAP - and even he attacked few hours earlier (which he didn't) then he went inactive so that turned in a legit inactive raid. Pay reps, Robo. Also, post the full logs if you dare ^^ I made it clear that this NAP would have had sever sanctions imposed to transgressors. We weren't friends, but I wanted to give you a chance instead of blindly following anybody who said that you are just a haughty asocial unable to play fair. I did a mistake, not listening to them. I did the same mistake regarding Emily, because I wanted to find their good side, and I failed. But meh. I allow shills in the alliance because they can be used like I was planning to use GUNK shills: Against their masters. It is not so hard, Robo. And anyway they aren't even so many. And you got 9999k money and 50 MGs every few turns for Idiocracy from nations smaller than an handkerchief. NLR would've been the one who broke the NAP as he attacked first and before your inactive time. I don't have the full logs because I didn't save them. I have always played fair in every bloc I have played and I'm social to those I trust which is mostly those I knew in past iterations that are still playing or have quit. I'm glad I was right in refusing your pact in 3.5 due to you harboring GUNK shills/mulits and apparently allowing them to " stay and do all their shill stuff" and it seems the same situation is going on in divine league but they're allowed since "when the time comes, they won't stand back." Maybe if you didn't allow so many shills in your alliance or kicked the ones in 3.5 such as el salvador I would've had more trust in you but you didn't. Idiocracy is running some kind of market scheme and I've never sent him any massive amount of resources such as 9999k or 50 MG or asked anyone to send him resources.
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Post by Estagon on May 1, 2015 8:32:13 GMT
Africanistan wrote to the NLR that he could take him over. The NLR still didn't though. Anyway you attacked him breaking our NAP - and even he attacked few hours earlier (which he didn't) then he went inactive so that turned in a legit inactive raid. Pay reps, Robo. Also, post the full logs if you dare ^^ I made it clear that this NAP would have had sever sanctions imposed to transgressors. We weren't friends, but I wanted to give you a chance instead of blindly following anybody who said that you are just a haughty asocial unable to play fair. I did a mistake, not listening to them. I did the same mistake regarding Emily, because I wanted to find their good side, and I failed. But meh. I allow shills in the alliance because they can be used like I was planning to use GUNK shills: Against their masters. It is not so hard, Robo. And anyway they aren't even so many. And you got 9999k money and 50 MGs every few turns for Idiocracy from nations smaller than an handkerchief. NLR would've been the one who broke the NAP as he attacked first and before your inactive time. I don't have the full logs because I didn't save them. I have always played fair in every bloc I have played and I'm social to those I trust which is mostly those I knew in past iterations that are still playing or have quit. I'm glad I was right in refusing your pact in 3.5 due to you harboring GUNK shills/mulits and apparently allowing them to " stay and do all their shill stuff" and it seems the same situation is going on in divine league but they're allowed since "when the time comes, they won't stand back." Maybe if you didn't allow so many shills in your alliance or kicked the ones in 3.5 such as el salvador I would've had more trust in you but you didn't. Idiocracy is running some kind of market scheme and I've never sent him any massive amount of resources such as 9999k or 50 MG or asked anyone to send him resources. When I told you to pay reparations through normal Bloc communiques though you said that you would have done it, if the NLR peaced out Africanistan. He peaced him out and he didn't see any of the reparations. I am not sure if denying things in this way is playing fair. And I allow shills in my alliance for a reason that you will probably see very soon. And since our NAP is null and void, as you are lying about its conditions, I break it. In 24 hours we won't have any treaty. But if I catch even one of your members attacking one of us - I don't care if this one of us is inactive, at this point, as you have not cared - he will be slaughtered. And you'd better pay those reparations. If you do not, then you really have no honor.
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Post by robosax on May 1, 2015 10:37:14 GMT
NLR would've been the one who broke the NAP as he attacked first and before your inactive time. I don't have the full logs because I didn't save them. I have always played fair in every bloc I have played and I'm social to those I trust which is mostly those I knew in past iterations that are still playing or have quit. I'm glad I was right in refusing your pact in 3.5 due to you harboring GUNK shills/mulits and apparently allowing them to " stay and do all their shill stuff" and it seems the same situation is going on in divine league but they're allowed since "when the time comes, they won't stand back." Maybe if you didn't allow so many shills in your alliance or kicked the ones in 3.5 such as el salvador I would've had more trust in you but you didn't. Idiocracy is running some kind of market scheme and I've never sent him any massive amount of resources such as 9999k or 50 MG or asked anyone to send him resources. When I told you to pay reparations through normal Bloc communiques though you said that you would have done it, if the NLR peaced out Africanistan. He peaced him out and he didn't see any of the reparations. I am not sure if denying things in this way is playing fair. And I allow shills in my alliance for a reason that you will probably see very soon. And since our NAP is null and void, as you are lying about its conditions, I break it. In 24 hours we won't have any treaty. But if I catch even one of your members attacking one of us - I don't care if this one of us is inactive, at this point, as you have not cared - he will be slaughtered. And you'd better pay those reparations. If you do not, then you really have no honor. Actually I didn't agree to reparations because the communique I responded to asked only for him to peace out and nothing about reparations. "I allow shills in my alliance for a reason that you will probably see very soon." = "I'm a hypocrite and using shills and mulits are #allpartoftheplan to use to my advantage". I'm fairly confident I knew what I signed and what I didn't. Consider the same treatment you've always received when one of your members attacks one of ours. You don't get to have reparations to be a one sided thing, you should've paid the damages for Africanistan.
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