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BoZ
Jan 18, 2015 5:58:14 GMT
Post by WISD0MTREE on Jan 18, 2015 5:58:14 GMT
BoZ keeps raiding my guys. I was wondering if anyone had any problems with them.
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BoZ
Jan 18, 2015 7:18:38 GMT
Post by Papaya Man on Jan 18, 2015 7:18:38 GMT
Some inactive from NAM got attacked by a fellow BoZ and when he went back online, X claimed that the BoZ didn't get pay a single rep but made peace anyway.
Other than that, it's the usual durkastan, Yazu, _Awesomeness_ (BoZs from ME) against Al-Halab and Levantia (DUs). This started happening way before the AASPQRINNA shoah
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BoZ
Jan 19, 2015 4:51:17 GMT
Post by lm_Brian on Jan 19, 2015 4:51:17 GMT
UAl was raided on two fronts by BOZ members, but both we're resolved diplomatically. If you get on good terms with sqynet and form a pact, his members won't fight you. It's not hard, as alliance leaders you should know how to deal with these things.
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BoZ
Jan 19, 2015 15:36:31 GMT
Post by taikuh on Jan 19, 2015 15:36:31 GMT
That "inactive" from NAM has a name, Papaya He's hieufox of Fercea~ He was raided by Whitey of BoZ. They peaced but my guy didn't get any reps, despite being double-tapped, gassed and spyfucked while less than 48 hours offline. I guess I should send my weekly comm to Robosax about it, but he might just ignore it *AHEM ROBO YOU SEEIN THIS?* I agree with Brian then, not in that forming a pact with BoZ will deter their raiders from raiding my actives, but that a pact is written down and should give me leverage when negotiating raiding incidents with Robo. Brian, if you don't mind, could you provide the relevant text from UAL's pact with BoZ so the rest of us have a template to work off of? (You don't have to reveal your secret MAP
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BoZ
Jan 19, 2015 21:33:22 GMT
Post by WISD0MTREE on Jan 19, 2015 21:33:22 GMT
and form a pact, his members won't fight you. It's not hard, as alliance leaders you should know how to deal with these things. We have a MDP. He wouldn't respond to my messages.
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BoZ
Jan 20, 2015 4:38:06 GMT
Post by lm_Brian on Jan 20, 2015 4:38:06 GMT
Brian, if you don't mind, could you provide the relevant text from UAL's pact with BoZ so the rest of us have a template to work off of? (You don't have to reveal your secret MAP Such a text doesn't exist, and never has. A pact is merely the symbolic personification of mutual intent; it is a fiction, only the will of the human mind exists. Read your Kierkegaard. and form a pact, his members won't fight you. It's not hard, as alliance leaders you should know how to deal with these things. We have a MDP. He wouldn't respond to my messages. This is what I'm getting: "Umm... why has a second war started? Are your members just feeling raidy today or is this an attack? I thought we we're friends man ;_;" "lack of targets/bored, I tell them to stop when I get home." "... It's all part of UAL's elaborate 'noone knows what pacts we have' defense system. Unfortunately it sometimes leads to erroneous conflict" "Actually that's pretty smart but again I must confirm with my leader" "it has been confirmed and i apologize for this miss understanding i shall declare peace immediately" You should consult a diplomatic professional regarding your situation. While this is not diplomatic advice, it is my opinion that this is an example of 'pactus ignoreus', robosax does not feel it is in his advantage to hold back his more aggressive members, and so he isn't. In this scenario you have a few options: 1) consider this an act of war, recruit allies and attack BoZ, 2) Act such that robosax thinks he should hold his members from attacking you, by A) positioning yourself such that he is afraid you might turn to Option 1, B) acting so loyal to BoZ that he considers the destruction of your member nations a loss to his own power, C) defending your own nations such that it is a loss to his raiders and therefore his power to attack you, or 3) Building a mutual defense network, where all your target-able nations are already being "attacked" by others friendly to your cause. I personally recommend Option 3, mostly because I am curious as to whether it would work.
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BoZ
Jan 20, 2015 12:01:41 GMT
via mobile
Post by linksith on Jan 20, 2015 12:01:41 GMT
3) Building a mutual defense network, where all your target-able nations are already being "attacked" by others friendly to your cause. I personally recommend Option 3, mostly because I am curious as to whether it would work. Option 3 is against game rules but people do it because rumsod isn't around and nobody can do anything about it
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BoZ
Jan 20, 2015 19:29:04 GMT
via mobile
Post by robosax on Jan 20, 2015 19:29:04 GMT
What are you guys talking about m8s? If my member attacks you, comm me and I have him peace. If you want reps, comm me and I give you reps. I don't think NAM has contacted me about anything in weeks. You have to comm me so I know what's going on.
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BoZ
Jan 21, 2015 0:09:53 GMT
Post by WISD0MTREE on Jan 21, 2015 0:09:53 GMT
What are you guys talking about m8s? If my member attacks you, comm me and I have him peace. If you want reps, comm me and I give you reps. I don't think NAM has contacted me about anything in weeks. You have to comm me so I know what's going on. The leader of Sqynet has recieved the following communique from you : Hey, one of your members is attacking one of mine. Other alliance leaders keep messaging me that we should go to war against you. Please get your guy to back off. I don't want to start WWB3.5 sent 2015-01-15 18:33:02 And Brian, how is DU and friends supposed to take down BoZ? And I ended up doing Option 2 for Reason B+C.
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BoZ
Jan 21, 2015 1:14:36 GMT
Post by robosax on Jan 21, 2015 1:14:36 GMT
What are you guys talking about m8s? If my member attacks you, comm me and I have him peace. If you want reps, comm me and I give you reps. I don't think NAM has contacted me about anything in weeks. You have to comm me so I know what's going on. The leader of Sqynet has recieved the following communique from you : Hey, one of your members is attacking one of mine. Other alliance leaders keep messaging me that we should go to war against you. Please get your guy to back off. I don't want to start WWB3.5 sent 2015-01-15 18:33:02 And Brian, how is DU and friends supposed to take down BoZ? And I ended up doing Option 2 for Reason B+C. No disrespect but I responded to Cthulhu as he commed me earlier and I thought he would communicate what I said with you. I shouldve responded to you telling this but I thought the solution was already solved. My bad m8.
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BoZ
Jan 21, 2015 11:44:40 GMT
Post by WISD0MTREE on Jan 21, 2015 11:44:40 GMT
Oh, alright.
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