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Post by Papaya Man on Mar 9, 2015 0:39:16 GMT
Has anybody here studied statistics? Do you know how to calculate efficiency?
It'd be good if someone can calculate the efficiency of getting weapons by AK vs. Tanks.
Of course this efficiency test will be real useless when you reach the tech where you can only buy tanks and we all know that tanks are objectively the most efficient (unless you're a new player) but I still want to know the exact value with computations of how more efficient Tanks are to AKs. This analysis would help some new players too who are having doubts.
You can do 40 clicks of AK for 200MG=40-120 weaps
80 clicks of AK for 400MG=80-240 weaps
You can do 10 clicks of Tanks for 130MG 50 oil=50-80 weaps
20 clicks of Tanks for 260MG 100 oil=100-160 weaps
30 clicks of Tanks for 390MG 150 oil=150-240 weaps
You'd know at a glance that Tanks are more efficient than AKs because their minimum weaps yield are higher by almost double (IF you don't mind the additional 150 oil cost).
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Post by lm_Brian on Mar 9, 2015 1:15:21 GMT
let M be equal to (price.OIL)/(price.MG).
let the price of MG be 1 (by definition)
100 clicks tanks nets you 650 weapons and costs you 1300 MG and 500 oil. That is equal to (1300 + 500M).
100 clicks AK nets you 230 weapons and costs you 500 MG. that is equal to 500.
ratio of efficiency.AKs : efficiency.TANKS:
500/230 : (1300+500M)/650 (divide each cost by the weapons produced to compare costs for 1 weapon)
50/23 : 2+10M/13 (multiply both sides to remove fractions)
650 : 598+230M
The relative efficiency depends on the value of M, the ratio between the price of OIL and MG. It changes frequently, but at the time of writing M=0.158
650: 634.34 (substitute in value of M to get ratio of costs by each method)
From that ratio, tanks are 1.025 times as efficient as AKs for getting weapons.
EDIT: corrected number of weapons produced thanks to andy's information.
EDIT 2: More correct information makes the difference much smaller, effectively irrelevant.
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Post by edr on Mar 9, 2015 2:54:45 GMT
TL;DR
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Post by linksith on Mar 9, 2015 12:18:21 GMT
An interesting explanation. I like
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Post by whiskertoes on Mar 9, 2015 12:22:50 GMT
lets look at it common-sense wise
would you rather be in a huge-ass metal chariot with rockets on its sides, or a single gun?
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Post by andyrewwer on Mar 9, 2015 13:18:54 GMT
let M be equal to (price.OIL)/(price.MG). let the price of MG be 1 (by definition) 100 clicks tanks nets you 650 weapons and costs you 1300 MG and 500 oil. That is equal to (1300 + 500M). 100 clicks AK nets you 200 weapons and costs you 1300 MG. that is equal to 1300. ratio of efficiency.AKs : efficiency.TANKS: 1300/200 : (1300+500M)/650 (divide each cost by the weapons produced to compare costs for 1 weapon) 6.5 : 2+10M/13 (multiply both sides to remove fractions) 169 : 52+20M The relative efficiency depends on the value of M, the ratio between the price of OIL and MG. It changes frequently, but at the time of writing M=0.264 169 : 57.28 (substitute in value of M to get ratio of costs by each method) From that ratio, tanks are 2.95 times as efficient as AKs for getting weapons. False assumptions here. AK give an average of 2.3 weapons per click. So 100 clicks gives 230 weapons and costs 500MG which completely changes your maths. Haven't checked how far, and thanks are superior (unless excessive oil prices) but not as much as you think. |
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Post by lm_Brian on Mar 9, 2015 19:57:05 GMT
False assumptions here. AK give an average of 2.3 weapons per click. So 100 clicks gives 230 weapons and costs 500MG which completely changes your maths. Haven't checked how far, and thanks are superior (unless excessive oil prices) but not as much as you think. I have corrected the maths for that. Thank you for the information! |
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Post by Autolykos on Mar 10, 2015 20:44:52 GMT
let M be equal to (price.OIL)/(price.MG). let the price of MG be 1 (by definition) 100 clicks tanks nets you 650 weapons and costs you 1300 MG and 500 oil. That is equal to (1300 + 500M). 100 clicks AK nets you 200 weapons and costs you 1300 MG. that is equal to 1300. ratio of efficiency.AKs : efficiency.TANKS: 1300/200 : (1300+500M)/650 (divide each cost by the weapons produced to compare costs for 1 weapon) 6.5 : 2+10M/13 (multiply both sides to remove fractions) 169 : 52+20M The relative efficiency depends on the value of M, the ratio between the price of OIL and MG. It changes frequently, but at the time of writing M=0.264 169 : 57.28 (substitute in value of M to get ratio of costs by each method) From that ratio, tanks are 2.95 times as efficient as AKs for getting weapons. False assumptions here. AK give an average of 2.3 weapons per click. So 100 clicks gives 230 weapons and costs 500MG which completely changes your maths. Haven't checked how far, and thanks are superior (unless excessive oil prices) but not as much as you think. you're too goddamn polite you mistaked tanks for thanks. |
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Post by andyrewwer on Mar 11, 2015 8:09:23 GMT
let M be equal to (price.OIL)/(price.MG). let the price of MG be 1 (by definition) 100 clicks tanks nets you 650 weapons and costs you 1300 MG and 500 oil. That is equal to (1300 + 500M). 100 clicks AK nets you 200 weapons and costs you 1300 MG. that is equal to 1300. ratio of efficiency.AKs : efficiency.TANKS: 1300/230 : (1300+500M)/650 (divide each cost by the weapons produced to compare costs for 1 weapon) 130/23 : 2+10M/13 (multiply both sides to remove fractions) 1690 : 598+230M The relative efficiency depends on the value of M, the ratio between the price of OIL and MG. It changes frequently, but at the time of writing M=0.264 1690 : 658.72 (substitute in value of M to get ratio of costs by each method) From that ratio, tanks are 2.56 times as efficient as AKs for getting weapons. EDIT: corrected number of weapons produced thanks to andy's information. You still don't have the right numbers  100 clicks ak = 230 weapons not 200... (At the very top) |
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Post by andyrewwer on Mar 23, 2015 18:43:13 GMT
100 clicks AK nets you 230 weapons and costs you 1300 MG. that is equal to 1300.Doesn't 100 clicks * 5 MG per click = 500MG? |
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Post by lm_Brian on Mar 23, 2015 22:44:53 GMT
100 clicks AK nets you 230 weapons and costs you 1300 MG. that is equal to 1300.Doesn't 100 clicks * 5 MG per click = 500MG? Editted it again for that, and now I'm not so sure there is any difference at all... do you see any more mistakes in my reasoning? |
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Post by andyrewwer on Mar 24, 2015 19:16:09 GMT
Doesn't 100 clicks * 5 MG per click = 500MG? Editted it again for that, and now I'm not so sure there is any difference at all... do you see any more mistakes in my reasoning? Well everything else looks right, but maybe its not neat |
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