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Post by IVAN CHESNOKOV on Mar 28, 2015 16:46:14 GMT
Nevermind. We received enough resourc...... Argumentations not to attack LC. Just may you not get out of the good path again. YOU HAVE LITERAL NO CB FOR ATTACK LC YET ANNOUNCE ATTACK ON LC AND NOW DECIDE YOU NO WAR LC DESPITE HOSTILE INTENTION FOR UNJUST REASON?
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Post by Estagon on Mar 28, 2015 16:51:23 GMT
Nevermind. We received enough resourc...... Argumentations not to attack LC. Just may you not get out of the good path again. YOU HAVE LITERAL NO CB FOR ATTACK LC YET ANNOUNCE ATTACK ON LC AND NOW DECIDE YOU NO WAR LC DESPITE HOSTILE INTENTION FOR UNJUST REASON? yes ^^
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Post by sirscarf on Mar 28, 2015 16:51:25 GMT
Destroying an active nation outright isn't valid grounds for war? How about completely ignoring diplomatic communiques? Also general faggotry (If that's not a CB, the meta is well and truly ded)?
In any case, Estagon DID strive for peace, now it's happened. This seems pretty straightforward, if you ask me.
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Post by Estagon on Mar 28, 2015 16:51:45 GMT
But we have a CB.
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Post by Autolykos on Mar 28, 2015 22:25:14 GMT
I'm trying not to come of as rude, but you don't have a legitimate CB. None of this is even of your concern really.
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Post by sirscarf on Mar 28, 2015 22:40:08 GMT
I'm trying not to come of as rude, but you don't have a legitimate CB. None of this is even of your concern really. If that's so, then why are we the ONLY ones that took any actions at all to help Hedj? Why would you so completely abandon him? And it BECAME Slim's concern when he was appealed to by Hedj, so "it's not your concern" isn't a valid argument.
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Post by presidentlee on Mar 28, 2015 23:14:10 GMT
Destroying an active nation outright isn't valid grounds for war? How about completely ignoring diplomatic communiques? Also general faggotry (If that's not a CB, the meta is well and truly ded)? FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT
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Post by Autolykos on Mar 28, 2015 23:23:36 GMT
I'm trying not to come of as rude, but you don't have a legitimate CB. None of this is even of your concern really. If that's so, then why are we the ONLY ones that took any actions at all to help Hedj? Why would you so completely abandon him? And it BECAME Slim's concern when he was appealed to by Hedj, so "it's not your concern" isn't a valid argument. Wlad is Divine League, Slim is the UAR Diplomates. Completely separate alliances. The DL has no right to declare war on the Leftist Coalition for this. Considering Hedj killed an active player 'NOT INACTIVE' it was his own fault this happened. Hedj never paid reparations so the Leftist Coalition sort to retrieve them back themselves.
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Post by Estagon on Mar 28, 2015 23:59:50 GMT
If that's so, then why are we the ONLY ones that took any actions at all to help Hedj? Why would you so completely abandon him? And it BECAME Slim's concern when he was appealed to by Hedj, so "it's not your concern" isn't a valid argument. Wlad is Divine League, Slim is the UAR Diplomates. Completely separate alliances. The DL has no right to declare war on the Leftist Coalition for this. Considering Hedj killed an active player 'NOT INACTIVE' it was his own fault this happened. Hedj never paid reparations so the Leftist Coalition sort to retrieve them back themselves. You are wrong. First of all, seeking for reparations and literally slaughtering one nation are completely different things. Also, it is our concern. We have a MDMAP with UAR, and I see all my MDMAPs as unofficial merging. When we sign one, it means that the signatory alliances will help each other as much as they can until the end. And it is exactly what we were doing. It was our concern and Emily was wrong. We had a casus belli and actually we are the only ones, along to our allies, who tried to do something against Emily's inhumanity.
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Post by IVAN CHESNOKOV on Mar 29, 2015 0:29:51 GMT
>MDMAPs as unofficial merging THIS IS NO HOW MERGE WORK AND ALSO NOT HOW COMMUNITY SEE SUCH PACT. BECAUSE YOU LIKE PRETEND THAT PACT IS MEAN MERGE AND GIVE SNOWFLAKE STATUS TO SELF AND ALLIANCE DOES NO CHANGE THAT IS NOT ACCEPTABLE CB.
ALSO LET US NOT FORGET WHO NEGOTIATE ORIGINAL PEACE TERM FOR LC AND PONE AND GET IMPOSSIBLE REPERATION FROM AUTIST EMILY AND WHO WAS TRY AND NEGOTIATE THIS TOO. ALSO HEDJ HAD FORSAKE NATION WEEKS AGO AND MAKE REROLL MANY DAY AGO. IS UNDERSTOOD AND OK YOU WANT GANK LC. IS JUST LIKE WHEN BOZ TRY AND DO SAME TO AA MONTHS AGO. DOES NOT MAKE IT OK CB, ONLY RATIONALE FOR SUCH ACTION IS AFTER TOTAL VICTORY TO SLIDE PERCEPTION OF CB IN WINNER FAVOR, LIKE COMINTERN GANK BY FUN LAST MAY
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Post by sirscarf on Mar 29, 2015 0:30:51 GMT
Also, Hedj DID pay reps, through outright surrender. Asking for more than that is sheer cheek. Taking more than that is cruelty. Permafarming is NEVER valid! And griefing someone out of the game damages us all irreparably, pushing the game into further decline! That can NOT be allowed, man! What would be the point of NOT resisting that?
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Post by IVAN CHESNOKOV on Mar 29, 2015 0:35:14 GMT
Also, Hedj DID pay reps, through outright surrender. Asking for more than that is sheer cheek. Taking more than that is cruelty. Permafarming is NEVER valid! And griefing someone out of the game damages us all irreparably, pushing the game into further decline! That can NOT be allowed, man! What would be the point of NOT resisting that? WHEN HEDJ WAS UNDER OTHER ALLIANCE, SPQR OR WOJTEK? I NOT REMEMBER HE NOT BOTHER CONSULT LEADER ABOUT REP AND MAKE DEAL WITH LC, AND ONLY PARTIAL MAKE GOOD ON DEAL. IS HIS FAULT FOR MAKING BAD DEAL AND NOT GO THROUGH, ALL HE HAD DO WAS RETURN LAND, AND HE REFUSE TO
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Post by sirscarf on Mar 29, 2015 0:35:51 GMT
THIS IS NO HOW MERGE WORK AND ALSO NOT HOW COMMUNITY SEE SUCH PACT. BECAUSE YOU LIKE PRETEND THAT PACT IS MEAN MERGE AND GIVE SNOWFLAKE STATUS TO SELF AND ALLIANCE DOES NO CHANGE THAT IS NOT ACCEPTABLE CB Correction: That is not how YOU are choosing to see such pacts. A valid opinion, but unless I'm mistaken you aren't the spokesman for *everyone*.
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Post by sirscarf on Mar 29, 2015 0:45:08 GMT
Also, Hedj DID pay reps, through outright surrender. Asking for more than that is sheer cheek. Taking more than that is cruelty. Permafarming is NEVER valid! And griefing someone out of the game damages us all irreparably, pushing the game into further decline! That can NOT be allowed, man! What would be the point of NOT resisting that? WHEN HEDJ WAS UNDER OTHER ALLIANCE, SPQR OR WOJTEK? I NOT REMEMBER HE NOT BOTHER CONSULT LEADER ABOUT REP AND MAKE DEAL WITH LC, AND ONLY PARTIAL MAKE GOOD ON DEAL. IS HIS FAULT FOR MAKING BAD DEAL AND NOT GO THROUGH, ALL HE HAD DO WAS RETURN LAND, AND HE REFUSE TOHow the fuck is anyone supposed to be expected to 'return' land EXCEPT through surrender? Which, again, I am compelled to point out that he DID. Asking for land conquered from previous lost wars is absurdly cheeky anyway. And it doesn't matter what alliance he was in, he asked for help from anyone that would listen, through comms and global decs. Just because SPQR is happy to leave an ally to get permafarmed doesn't mean everyone is willing to let it go so easily.
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Post by Estagon on Mar 29, 2015 0:55:15 GMT
MDMAP: Mutual Defence and Mutual Aggression pact. Looking at its description it means that we share the casus belli. Also, I don't pretend you to say that we have a valid Casus Belli, as obviously you won't say it. I pretend you to know that we aren't wrong. I haven't been leading an alliance to see Bloc falling deeper and deeper due to players like Emily and her guys.
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